Las Vegas Vacation Part 2

For years I’ve had a fantasy of going to a topless beach or pool with my wife. – Here’s what happened.

We took the elevator down to the pool, I was just figuring on going to the basic pool and laying out. I didnt want to push going to the topless pool because if my wife was really uncomfortable about it I wasn’t really interested in it. Even though we booked the hotel together and she knew my number 1 priority for the hotel we stayed at was to have a European sunbathing pool, my whole goal and desire was for her to enjoy it too. I was hoping she would go there with me and warm up to it. Realize that it’s not about looking at other women, it’s about doing something exciting with her, showing her off, showing off her supermodel figure. It’s about helping her realize how truly beautiful she is and feeling confident about her body, its about people watching together, and just enjoying something new together. I had explained to her many times that in Europe at many beaches this is how women tan. It’s not pornography, its not a strip club, it’s fun, kinky, exciting and in a pure environment and setting, something we can do together.

But I didn’t say anything or push it, I figured maybe I’d get lucky during our trip, I hoped.

We stopped at the front desk to find out how to get to the pool. My wife shocked me by asking “how do we get to Tao Beach”? (Tao Beach is the European pool)

I was shocked. My wife could tell by the look on my face. She said “what, that’s why we booked this hotel right?” (oh my wife is so kinky and romantic sometimes!)

I smiled, couldn’t speak, just stood there with a big grin on my face, I gave my wife a big hug.

She told me she had mixed feelings. She knew this was exciting to me but also felt awkward and a little uncomfortable, but on the other hand she knew I wanted to do this with her so bad, so she was a little excited, but nervous too.

I held her hands and said “thanks for being willing to try this with me honey. Remember if we get in there and you feel really uncomfortable or its not what we think, we can leave and just tan at the regular pool. So don’t feel like you’re forced to stay or like it. We’ll just go in, check it out for a few of minutes first and then decide if we want to stay.”

This made her feel much better and actually helped her look forward to seeing if this would be fun or not. She said “ok thanks honey, I love you “.

I said “I love you too” and we walked over to the pool.

When we got there we had to show our hotel key for ID and they let us in. We couldn’t even see the pool until they let us in, they really shielded the pool well so only people in the pool area could see the scenery.

We walked in and sat down at a table with chairs under an umbrella. There were about 90 people in the pool area, probably 50 of them women. All of them had their tops off. Most were laying out tanning, the guys were at the pool bar or laying next to their ladies. People were having fun in the pool area, splashing, the guys were having some races. There was a beach volleyball court that 4 couples were playing at. There was a ping pong table, palm trees, lounge chairs, music playing, a very relaxed atmosphere.

My wife said “wow there’s a lot of people here, I was hoping there wouldn’t be only 1 or 2 women tanning.”

I said “yeah it seems relaxed, fun”.

We talked about a couple of people we saw, one couple kissing, two couples having a wrestling match with the girls sitting on top of their husbands heads. It was funny .

We laughed and a couple staying on the same floor as us recognized us and came up to say “hi”. We chatted for a couple of minutes and they asked if we wanted to play badminton with them when the current game was over. We said “sure, sounds like fun”.

My wife got up and said “ok, lets stay, this will be fun”. Then the most amazing, beautiful and sensual site I’ve ever seen happened. She reached back over her head and untied her top, she pulled her top up over her head and her bare breasts were exposed for the first time under the bright sunlight. She put her top in the pool bag we had brought and said “will you rub some tanning lotion on me”?

I was frozen, staring at her beautiful body, topless, in her tight boy shorts. She laughed and walked over to me and said “honey, what are you thinking”? She placed her hand on my shorts and could feel my throbbing erection.

I said “this is even better than I ever imagined, your body is so beautiful, I wish you could see what I see. Look at your figure, your legs, butt, waist, stomach, arms, breasts, neck, face, hair, smile, I pulled her to me and kissed her, passionately.

Eventually I rubbed tanning lotion all over her body and she leaned back on me in a lounge chair. She put her arms up over her head and wrapped them around me, I made sure her breasts had extra, extra lotion on LOL. But she didn’t mind at all. After a few minutes she got up and turned to me and rubbed the lotion on me.

We went over to the pool and got in to cool off, after a couple of minutes the other couple let us know the court was open. We got out and played badminton for about 45 minutes with them. It was really fun. I’m usually super competitive but I simply didn’t care about the score. I was just loving looking at my wifes beautiful body, in the sunlight (mmmmm) I’m hard just thinking about it.

After we played we put some more lotion on each other, and got some water at the pool bar. We sat there and laughed about our badminton skills, I told my wife how hot she was, I asked her if she liked being topless. She said “yeah I do, it’s still a little bit weird but I think I could get used to it in a place like this”.

We grabbed one of the floating mattresses (they provided them at the pool, and had a couples one which was actually huge) we layed on it and tanned for about an hour, we jumped in the pool and got some water after about 30 minutes and got back on. For the last 20 minutes we people watched and talked -it was fun- intimate.

There was a pool volleyball game getting going and a few couples asked if we wanted to play, we said “sure”. It was fun. Lots of laughs.

We sat and talked for 20 more minutes and then had to go get ready for the David Copperfield show. After watching my wife topless for 2.5 hours and having so much fun, seeing her enjoying yourself, I was so turned on. I wanted her so much. I said “I’m so turned on right now, I’ve had an erection since you took your top off 2.5 hours ago. I can’t wait until we get back from the show”.

She said ” I love you so much, I had so much fun, I can’t wait to make love to you tonight and feel your hands all over my body, I can’t wait to touch you, love you , be close to you”.

We kissed for awhile , my hands slid over your breasts several times and down your back, the anticipation was back on for after the show.

My wife wore her beautiful black dress and was absolutely stunning. I wore a new suit we had got, that she liked on me a lot.

The show was great, unbelievable tricks, we really liked it. We spent a lot of time teasing each other, when the lights would go out for one of the tricks our hands were playing. My wife stroked me one time so good, the lights came on and she said “how horny are you now? I got you good”.

LOL, she did get me good but the tease was on. The next time the lights went out, well lets just say when they came back on her panties were in my pocket. Lol- she had let out a little scream and laugh as I was taking them off, but no one could hear her because the noise from the show was so loud.

I started whispering in her ear what I was going to do with my hands under her dress when the lights went off again. She said “I dare you”.

Well the next time the lights went off she unbuckled my belt and unzipped my pants before I could get my hands under her dress. With the lights out I couldn’t see anything and I was trying to buckle my belt again. Plus we were both laughing so hard I couldn’t keep my hands steady. It was so funny.

She said “come on honey, want to try again”. I smacked her leg a little and said “honey you’re gonna get me thrown out of here”, we were both laughing, we couldn’t stop, the people next to us were looking at us like- whats so funny? Thankfully it was so dark they couldn’t see what was happening.

Afterwards we went and ate at a fancy restaurant and talked about the show. We just split one plate and laughed at how little food there was for so much money. The entire plate wouldn’t have filled up our 3 year old. Lol

So after we “ate” at this place we went and got some Chipotle because we were starving. What a fun night, teasing, laughing, experiencing with my best friend, lover and wife.

After we ate our sexual tension was on high- like earlier in the day. I liked teasing with her and building our sexual tension and desire for each other. It seemed to help my wife open up more and talk about her desires. I think being aroused and at the height of anticipation helps my wife learn and realize and experience what her desires and fantasies are. We walked up to our room, kissing in the elevator, my hands under her panty less dress, touching, her hands on my pants rubbing. We got into our room and we didn’t even make it past the entry way before she had an orgasm from my hand rubbing her. She ripped my suit off and used her hand to stimulate me, it felt so good. Having orgasmd twice earlier in the day I had full control. I said “that feels so good honey, I’m not going to orgasm until you have several orgasms. I’m in full control, so let yourself go. My wife was so turned on, her desire was extremely high and she said “I want you so bad, lets go down to Tao beach and sit in the spa. I want to go topless for you again. Let’s see if we can find a secluded spot and grind each other in the spa”. I absolutely loved that idea, plus it made me feel like she really did enjoy it earlier.

We both agreed to go and eventually stopped kissing and touching each other. I was very curious what she was thinking and why she wanted to go back. I knew her answers might turn me on so much that we’d never make out the door. So I waited until we got down to the pool to ask. It was still extremely warm out and there were a few people in the spas. There was one spa empty and we went into that one.

We snuggled next to each other and I said “I’m glad you felt comfortable enough to come back.” I wasn’t sure what question I wanted to ask so I waited to see what she would say. I was surprised and thrilled by her answer. She obviously had been thinking about it and had a lot to say. She said “I really like it. I actually realize women spend everyday hoping their breasts look beautiful. From the padded bras, to the form fitting clothes, how our breasts look are always on our minds. I can see why in Europe so many women feel comfortable with their tops off. It’s really very sensual and exciting in a non dirty atmosphere, the way a woman’s breasts look are a huge part of her life, the way she feels about herself. Coming here and seeing women with all different shapes and sizes helps me feel more comfortable with my breasts, more confident about my body. I feel comfortable, it helps me feel like my breasts and body are beautiful.”

I loved that she felt that way. I had never felt more turned on than in that moment. I told her how I had always dreamed that she would feel that way. I told her how beautiful she is and how much I loved her, and how much I appreciated her being willing to try and experiment new things with me.

When we walked back up to the hotel room I took her top off right when we went in and she had my shorts off in about 3 seconds. She wrapped her legs around me and we started making love as I carried her to our bed. It was sensational! It was hot, passionate, aggressive, steamy, sexy, full of desire for each other. I love sex like that!

We then held each other for about 30 minutes, laughed and talked about the day. We weren’t tired at all and ended up going to sit on our balcony, looking out at the strip. We sat in a lounge chair, her back against my chest.

My wife had her top off, gorgeous lace panties on, I slid my hand down her panties. She was already quite wet, I slowly massaged my wife, she slowly moved her hips pressing more firmly against my fingers, she held my arm and pushed it harder into her. She became soaking wet. My wife slid her panties off, (I had already been sitting on the balcony naked with her) my wife straddled me, slid my penis inside of her and very passionately began to make love. My wife began to thrust very hard, I said “you’re so beautiful honey, I love you so much”. She said “this is so hot, you’re so hot, I want you so freaking bad”. My wife brought herself to the edge of orgasm several times, she even turned around and we made love in reverse cowgirl position. I stimulated my wife with my fingers as she vigorously thrusted on my penis, she helped massage her clit with my fingers, I rubbed her breasts with my other hand. My wifes other hand was caressing both of us, my leg , her belly , her leg, she reached around to my back, she even rubbed her breasts with me for awhile (oh that was so hot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

She said “I can’t hold out any longer, I want you so much”.

I said “have me, finish with all the desire and passion you have”.

My wife turned around, straddled me, i picked her up and placed her firmly against our balcony windows. I helped her thrust up and down on me, I pressed my hips firmly into her so her g spot firmly hit my penis with every thrust. She began to moan, we thrust harder, harder, harder, so freaking hot!. My wife had such an amazing erotic and sensual orgasm. We continued to kiss, we kissed for several minutes, my hands running all over her body, her hands all over mine, I said ” that was so hot”. She smiled and slightly laughed and said yeah it was”.

We ended up drifting off to
Sleep in each others arms. What an Amazing Day!!!!!

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44 replies
  1. PassionateForChrist says:

    I enjoyed both parts of this story. Well done, 1Flesh! So happy you both could make it such an unforgettable vacation! I like how you’ve shared the inner thoughts and feelings you two had while stepping out into new territory for the both of you.

    As I read how you both approached the experience of Tao Beach, I was soul-searching myself, imagining what would be if my future hubby would have such a fantasy, what I would be feeling… Would I be able to feel comfortable?… and though your wife’s hearty elaboration in the spa was an interesting perspective to it all, I must say I wouldn’t be able. I hope my future hubby won’t have such a fantasy, for I myself couldn’t make it come true for him, not at the level I am in myself so far. I don’t know if that may change with time… it would for sure take a great amount of consistent, sincere, meaningful effort on my future husband’s part to make me believably feel outwardly beautiful… even then, I personally can’t see myself being able to warm up to the idea of being exposed around other exposed people… I have no taste at all for people-watching myself and being watched by people makes me feel highly insecure (and that’s already the case when I’m fully dressed). That’s a deep-seated personal hiccup of mine… I just hope my future hubby will have grace and patience for that… I hope that he will also be able to forgive me for what I won’t be able to do for him.

    I found it a bit funny to read that women in Europe are so much more comfortable with their bodies… being European, I thought to myself I don’t know if that’s not just the sexy American imagination of how much more loose or “body-confident” Europeans must be because we got Paris and Venice and there are all those reputations floating around about our cultures or maybe that’s really true and I just don’t know about it or maybe I have just evaded that European influence in my own development… Either way, I found it interesting.

    Beautiful story, 1 Flesh. Looking forward to your next ones! Love and blessings! 🙂

    • 1 Flesh says:

      Thanks. It was an amazing experience- very kinky. We found it so fun, romantic, exhilarating and passionate to do something so daring together.

    • 1 Flesh says:

      Thank you – let’s face it , there’s nothing hotter for a man than when he’s able to please his wife sexually.

  2. Midwest Couple says:

    Thanks for sharing these moments. We’ve roll played many situation like this where we’re in public and its ususally the most erotic sex we have. Not sure if it’s a guy thing or what, but I sincerely want to show off my wifes body to others as its such a turn on, but so far we have not done this, but this story may change that.

    • 1 Flesh says:

      It’s an amazing experience. Just make sure to keep it just between the two of you and scout an environment where it’s very casual. And have fun!

  3. Mntman says:

    Am I missing something?
    How is exposing your wife to other men or being around other women who are exposed a good example of Godly marriage and passion for one another? Is that not what this site is supposed to be about?

    • 1 Flesh says:

      You make a good and fair point. It’s something that we enjoyed together. But I understand your comment.

  4. Lovinghusband says:

    Thank you for your story. Of course, I love everything that celebrates your oneness together.

    Your story presupposed a kind of European beach purity – where all involved are there for wholesome fun while the perverts are not allowed in. From a biblical perspective that is pure fantasy. I have spent a lot of time in a number of Euroean countries and even visited a similar type beach on a lake in Scandavia (prior to my coming to faith in Jesus Christ). Most ladies were topless. I was there with my girlfriend.

    Anyway, in what circumstance do I want any man not married to my wife – to have permission to see her naked tits? None! A man who is “harmlessly” talking with us by the pool with my permission to see my wife’s tits is now much more susceptible to be masturbating and fantasizing about her – potentially fucking her in his fantasy because I (we) gave him permission to not only see them, but to talk with her, laugh with her, to see her tits sway and bounce during badminton and just the normal course of moving around. I’ve given 40 men with sin natures my permission to see my wife’s aureolas! To see her nipples hard depending on her inspiration at the moment. Who is showing up atthese hotels for this? Am I to gamble that they are all like us? We do have an accountibility with “our neighbor”. If a man chooses to undress my covered wife in his mind – I don’t have any responsibility. But if I’ve delivered her toys to him naked – I am accountable. I’m the one who knows about the Bible and its message. I’m supposed to point them towards Christ- yet putting my wife’s tits out there is a stumbling block. “Hey, there were already 59 other pairs of boobs out there – what difference does it make if a conservative Christian couple slips away to a place where no one knows them and enjoys some of the things that only they will know? I think it matters! Read Hebrews 2:1.

    Is it a good reason to do this just to give my wife “more confidence that she has a supermodel body”? If our mutual encouragement is not enough for her to have confidence then something deeper is wrong. The solution is not to go to a place to get a comparative assessment with real people not called my husband. Does my wife come away from this thinking, “I’m so glad my husband loved me enough to share my tits – now I finally know that when he says I’m hot – that I really am.”?

    God called us to be covered after the fall for a reason. Not that making our beautiful naked bodies was a mistake – but because of what sin’s influence has done to us. We can be sinfully perverted in the drop of a hat! My sin nature finds exposing my wife’s tits to other men titillating. I get it! I am proud of my wife’s sexy body! I let her know almost daily. If she would tell me that she needs greater confidence and would find it by exposing her tits to other “harmless” men – if I were thinking rightly, I would tell her to flee from such pride, self-obsessing and sin. I would apologize for not encouraging her enough. I know my naked cock and her tits and pussy are only for us to see. There is NO harmless environment in a sinful world for us to frolic and play with her boobs bouncing in front of other men.

    Also, my wife knows me well enough that in that ienvironment – I couldn’t help but notice 59 other pairs of naked boobs. Does she really think I’m “just thinking only of your tits babe”? Does she think when I’m fucking her that night that I’m only thinking of her – when she just gave me permission to spend 2 to 3 hours at Boobmart? Or would we be honest with each other and give the real, full story: that we were turned on by the nudity we were surrounded by today! That it was like a drug! All those tits and the unspoken sexual tension around us. All 90 of us involved in giving each other permission to fulfill our sexual fantasies.

    I love this MH family and know I am risking sounding harsh or heavy handed in this criticism – but I am willing. We come to MH because it is safe. It openly states biblical authority. We openly celebrate godly, monogamous sex within our marriages and are blessed. We also need to be open to hearing warnings from people who love us. Being topless in front of men we are not married to in this way is “swinger lite”. No, this was not an orgy, but it feeds the sinful orgy “roots” that still reside in us. We have to test this by Scripture and what it says about our fallen nature and the exclusiveness of our nakedness.

    Please receive this with the heart of love that I desire to send it with! I’ve now been married 30 years and have made more mistakes than I want to remember. I am a sinner saved by the grace of Jesus Chrost. I don’t write as someone without struggles with sin. I really do care about you 1 Flesh and your marriage. I understand what a turn on it is to showcase a wife. I urge you to seek God’s best in the future. You will experience His blessing and security in keeping her nakedness for your eyes only! I really hope that you receive this as the words of a friend! God bless you and your wife! LH

    • Silver says:

      I found what you said, LH, very insightful, and also am very much on the same page as what PfC said, I wouldn’t be able to do something like this either. This story made me think about this topic a lot.

      You may have enjoyed doing this with your wife, 1Flesh, and I’m not judging you personally, but I don’t think this is an innocent thing to do for most men, at least the very visual ones. I do not think that nudity itself is a sin, in fact, as a studio artist one of my favorite subjects is tasteful depictions of the nude form, both genders are beautiful to me and I can say that in a completely non-sexual way, but I actually don’t understand the obsession of going to nude beaches or seeking out situations to be nude with other people. Real life where people are living and breathing and doing activities around you is very different to me than art. There are many more variables at least. Why do something like this? What if this wasn’t a titties-pool, but a pool where a bunch of real-life erect cocks sprung free for us women to view and compare? I like that your heart in this story was set on your wife, but I still am not sure how I feel about this…

    • CMLove says:

      Hahaha! Silver, your comment about “real life” erect cocks all over the place made me laugh! I see your point! Lol

    • Lovinghusband says:

      Great points Silver. My distant experience on a lake in Scandinavia was that the ladies were very much noticing the erect cocks. My girlfriend at that time made comments – they were everywhere. Not everyone was naked there. The point being – would I want my wife fantasizing over the cocks she saw that day? No. I (too) was glad that 1 Flesh made his story focus on his wife – but the elephant in the room was really there – even if it didn’t get mention in his story. I always enjoy what you write my friend! God bless you and your family! LH

    • Silver says:

      Thanks, LH! Yeah, it would be distracting for a woman to be at a beach like that! lol I wouldn’t mind being on a beach naked with my husband and just him and his erect cock tho!

    • TheIndianBoy says:

      LH, Exactly my thoughts. Appreciate your expression. Maybe we can have an open discussion in the advice section.

    • Lovinghusband says:

      Thank you TheIndianBoy. I think the discussion goes on here in this thread. God bless you. LH

    • PassionateForChrist says:

      Thank you, LH, for having taken the time to impart all this and for having taken heart! Though I would have had an instinctual uneasiness being in such a situation myself, an uneasiness that would personally keep me from going there, as I said, I must admit that, this time, I’ve missed to be aware of the danger and wrongness of the situation as such for us as Christians… I’m sorry for that. All the more do I thank you for having made me aware of the depth to all of this through the loving words of caution you shared! I will keep these words with me, as I do most of yours, saved unto my device and in my heart. Thank you for taking loving care of us all! God bless!

    • Lovinghusband says:

      Thank you Passionate. I like how so many of us on MH help each other “see” things that we wouldn’t see just on our own. Knowing that all good gifts come from the Father (James 1) – whatever any of us recognize as His truth comes from Him. Like you said, there are many times when we don’t see something that is potentially dangerous at first. I’m praying for 1 Flesh – and hope he might give us some feedback to what he thinks about how some were concerned for him and his dear wife. God bless you Passionate. LH

    • 1 Flesh says:

      First I want to clarify that this wasn’t a nude pool. It was just topless.

      With that said you are 100 percent right. I knew when posting this story there would be many comments like this. With that said I thought it was an open discussion to have. I’m sure we’re not the only couple to either try this or think about it. We thought about that before posting this story- posting this story may have been a mistake, but I think there’s been good conversation from it. If I offended anyone I’m truly sorry.

      With that said I truly did enjoy the experience with my wife. It was very fun and kinky. I’m not arguing any of the points you make, as your points are biblical.

      Many things are sinful- and I’m a sinner saved by Christs grace. I think open communication between a husband and wife about sex is important. Many men think about sex for hours each day and yet there wife doesn’t know what’s going on in there head.

      I’ve found that through open communication my wife and I have a much better relationship and friendship. That open communication led to our experience. I realize what you’re saying in your comments and I appreciate you taking the time to make them.

      I think many men grow apart from their wives by keeping their thoughts, feelings and emotions bottled up. I believe that leads to many affairs and helps satan get ahold of marriages.

      Open communication that leads to a kinky, almost secret romantic moment with my wife helped us have a fun memory together.

    • Lovinghusband says:

      Thank you 1 Flesh for taking the time. I appreciate your humble spirit. I look forward to reading more from you. LH

    • PassionateForChrist says:

      Dearest 1Flesh, thank you for taking time to reply to all! I just wish to say 1 thing, and this goes out to ALL on MH – yes, that means, YOU, the beautiful, sweet soul, who reads this right now.

      1Flesh, I can guarantee you that I do NOT feel any offense or the like concerning your story. Posting your story was not a mistake. I’ve said it before on the other post, which started an open discussion recently, where I was the one to speak due words in due season to us all concerning the dangers of temptation and compromise. I love that you considered having an open discussion on it and didn’t back away from it. I personally want to assure you that there is no need to feel sorry for having sparked an open discussion.

      This goes out to us all on MH because I want to make sure all of us know that it is GOOD and HEALTHY to have open, fearless discussions like this – NOT EVERYONE will receive the words of caution or correction that are being spoken (what we receive is our free will choice – and the accountability for our choices is alone between God and each and every one of us) BUT that shouldn’t stop us from having such discussions because SOMEONE may receive them and may be blessed by them in a personal way (as only God can arrange for it) – To tell you the truth, I am very grateful for such discussions and I have taken something majorly valuable out of this one just as I have taken something majorly valuable out of the other discussion we recently had, which got in the end deleted. I am grateful for each valuable lesson I get to learn through the mature, open, fearless, Bible-adhering, God-honoring exchanges we as Christians can have on here, if we are bold enough to speak up as God would have us to and if we are confident, stable and humble enough in God to not fall into the Enemy’s trap of tempting us into being offended as we are in the process of sharpening one another like iron sharpens iron.

      If we as Christians are not able to have open discussions anymore, where due words in due seasons (words of caution and correction that are in accord with the Spirit and the Truth of the Word) can be spoken fearlessly, because someone may take them in a wrong way and lets the Enemy put a spirit of offense on them, then we as Christians are doomed to powerlessness and to staying captive each in our own limited perspectives. If we cannot discuss openly in a mature, Bible-adhering, God-honoring way amongst each other such and similar topics, then what remains is that we are painfully confined to either just simply acquiesce to everything we read or to commit the sin of omission (that is: we do not say or do something that we know we should do or say in a particular situation or that we are drawn to say or do by the Spirit). If we know what is right to do or say and not do or say it, it is sin. So my plea here to us all is to not take offense when mature, Bible-adhering, God-honoring words of caution or correction are being spoken, when such a discussion is sparked – as I said, regardless of whether these words will be received into anybody’s hearts or not, they must be spoken. Unchallenged, we risk to become stunted in our growth in Christ. And I believe, one thing we all strive after as Christians is to keep constantly growing, keep improving, keep pressing on, keep maturing, keep learning! We certainly don’t wanna get stuck in our growth; we wanna continuously keep becoming more and more like Christ – the best that we each can be and that He makes us each be in Him, through Him and for His glory.

      Bottom line: I LOVE this open discussion. I am personally SUPER GRATEFUL for LH’s comments and Silver’s and CMLove’s and Hot Milk’s and Mntman’s and HornyHubby’s. I receive them in accord with my spirit and am challenged by them to rise higher personally. I am so THANKFUL that MH let’s us have the opportunity to learn, grow and mature together! I am blessed by the wisdom shared, the experiences shared, the truth in love that’s being shared!!

    • PassionateForChrist says:

      Forgot to say… dearest 1Flesh, I love the open communication pattern you care to cultivate with your wife in your marriage. That is something beautiful and important. Way to go! 🙂

      Dearest MH community: God bless you all! 😀

    • Silver says:

      I liked what you commented back, 1Flesh! And actually, I think this conversation was great to have on MH. Opened up a very interesting discussion so thank you for that. I think your story fits the MH mindset because the entire time it was about your wife and you, and not about seeing other women topless. I look forward to reading more from you and your wife!

    • CMLove says:

      I so appreciate your clear and mature response, 1Flesh! I too am so grateful for the open communication that your post started and I’m sure i speak for everyone when i say posting this story was not a mistake! It was used by God to clarify many things for me and I so enjoyed reading your story and all the comments!! Also, i heartily agree about having open communication with your spouse! It is one of, if not the most important, thing that keeps the marriage strong! I am so blessed by you and your wife! May God continue to bless you as you follow Him!

  5. CMLove says:

    I agree wholeheartedly, Loving Husband. Thank you so much for your comment. I felt the same way, but didnt know how to put it into words. I would feel insecure myself being around that many breasts knowing full well that mine aren’t that large, small, shiny etc. Especially knowing my husband is seeing all of them as well. Naked and without shame should stay between the husband and his wife, in my humble opinion. God gave a man and woman to each other and wants them to cultivate the little kingdom that He created. I guess the question is “will this strengthen our marriage or put a breach in it, therefore giving the enemy a foothold?” Still, oneflesh, i am so glad that you and your wife grew closer in this instance! Thanks for the story! May God continue to bless you as you follow Him!!

    • Lovinghusband says:

      Thanks CMLove. My wife would also feel insecure in that environment too – for the same reason that you mentioned. She would know for sure that my mind was not just on her. The naked and without shame limit is two. In a group of 90 – it is naked and with a load of shame. God bless you. LH

    • PassionateForChrist says:

      I completely agree with all of your points on this, Lovinghusband! They are so true and brilliantly explained. I also fully support what CMLove and Silver shared! I pray that not just the author of this post but we all receive these great reminders, that are at the heart of God’s Word, and store them in our hearts because there is no truth that we don’t need. We need all the Truth we can get and we need it before our eyes over and over and over again, lest we forget. I’m grateful for godly leadership and for brothers and sisters in Christ, that watch out over me, over you, over each other, and speak words of wisdom, words of caution, words of correction, whenever need be – due words in due seasons! THIS is real, pure love!!

  6. Hot Milk says:

    Amen LH , Amen brother , God has you on this site as His voice of wisdom. Totally love this site , and the blessing it brings to many marriages, 1 flesh , I pray that God gives you the revelation of just how hot it is to keep your hottie wife for your eyes only , and that your wife has the gift of wisdom, may God abundantly bless you both in Jesus name amen

  7. Happy Husband says:

    I have to admit that I am a bit torn about this post. I do think that most of us on the site are from North America where the display of a woman’s breasts is innately sexual. On the other hand, while I am not denying that I find my wife’s breasts to be perfect and wonderful, I am less certain that they are necessarily meant to be sexual by God any more than what are to me her perfect legs or her trim, flat belly, or the desirable shape of her neck, hair and face. Similarly, plenty of women are more turned on by a shirtless man in a pair of blue jeans than they are by the same man completely naked. So, I am left to ponder the thought that while it is likely that many men may have ogled 1 Flesh’s wife and her bare breasts that day, would they have done any less had everyone at the pool had tops on? Indeed, the reality of the situation is that by the end of the day most of the men and women at that pool would have felt that her breasts were less sexual than when they arrived. Does any woman on this site avoid the beach in the summer for fear that they may see a shirtless 22 year old college athlete cavorting in the sand? Should I be admonished because my wife looks great in a bikini and I am proud of her, or am I showing off her flesh to other men who might be running back to their cottages and masturbating to thoughts of her? At the end of the day, I guess the question really is this, at least to me – was the Tao pool a place that was charged with sexual energy, or was it merely a casual place where women could be topless without condemnation. My guess is that for many, it was more of the former, and that is what is causing so much concern in this forum, especially when 1 Flesh and his wife found themselves so turned on by the experience. However, be careful with any condemnation, lest we all be forced to have our wives cover themselves like the women of Islam.

    • PassionateForChrist says:

      Dear Happy Husband, I just quickly wanna address 3 of your points shortly (for the rest I’m excitedly looking forward to LH’s reply to your comment – he can convey the heart of the Word in a much more experienced, better way in this than I could)…

      1) You said:”So, I am left to ponder the thought that while it is likely that many men may have ogled 1 Flesh’s wife and her bare breasts that day, would they have done any less had everyone at the pool had tops on?” I get what you try to say but I wish to remind you of the very valid and crucial point LH made in his primary comment above:”We do have an accountibility with “our neighbor”. If a man chooses to undress my covered wife in his mind – I don’t have any responsibility. But if I’ve delivered her toys to him naked – I am accountable.” (LH comment) – Please take his words to heart on this because what he spoke there is so true and on point.

      2) “However, be careful with any condemnation, lest we all be forced to have our wives cover themselves like the women of Islam.” – First off, out of fairness, I do wanna say this: the extreme picture of covered Muslim wives you have in mind is not the result of the religion of Islam; it is the result of man-made traditions that were established by certain groups of people, with specific worldly agendas, and that were passed down through the generations. Those traditions are not all truly representative of or in accord with what is written in the Koran, though they claim to be. Just like we Christians are faced with distortions or abuse of what is written in the Word of God by some groups of people, who claim to speak in the name of the Word though their content doesn’t match the Truth of the Word, so too is and was Islam being abused by some. There are many believing Muslims, who do not cover their wives in the extreme. Just like we Christians, they too appreciate their wives dressing beautifully and decently (and decently doesn’t mean the woman needs to wear a potato sack or such – it just means dressing in a respectable way… and to tell you the truth, I as a woman would always much rather be dressing in a way that doesn’t sell myself out to everyone – I am a woman of God, a prized possession of the Almighty, His masterpiece, and this is the high value I wanna portray in the way I choose to dress, for this is the value God sees in me. And I receive this value He bestows unto me and wanna honor and cherish it and protect it. And I personally see the same high value in my future husband. I wouldn’t want other women to (lustily) soak in the view of my future hubby’s muscular, all-bare, shiny, sexy chest (if he’ll have one) or any other sexy part of his design, that God gave him for exclusively me. I am not to sell myself short by exposing my (most) intimate gifts to whosoever is around – My breasts, my thighs, my butt and my juicy, lovely place, these are the precious gifts given to me by God for my husband’s enjoyment only – they have not been given to me to advertise myself to those around me or to boast or showcase or to ensnare others into impurity). Secondly, LH and the other brothers and sisters in Christ have not operated out of a spirit of condemnation. They have operated in a spirit of Christian correction. It is in accord with God’s own character and He explicitely calls us to do it. You speak of the possibility of “… a casual place where women could be topless without condemnation..” – the only place I believe there to be where women can be topless without condemnation would be their own home, their own private space – no public place (space shared with strangers, even if secluded or set apart for only the like-minded) can qualify for being ok according to the Word of God. LH’s point is so quintessential and we should keep it all in mind: we are not accountable for what someone else decides to do, for sombody else’s motives or choices of thoughts but we are accountable for ours and we are accountable as representatives of Jesus for living according to the high-valued standard of the Word of God, who tells us to choose and take the narrow path always, who cautions us all to be alert and on guard, to choose wisely… We are accountable for what we deliberately further through our behavior and our choices.

      3) “Does any woman on this site avoid the beach in the summer for fear that they may see a shirtless 22 year old college athlete cavorting in the sand?” – Yes, I do. I do not go to the beach, exactly because of the extensive display of bare skin. I also never went into clubs or to parties because of the impure behavioral spirit that controls these spots. (Side note: I only went into a club once in my life -at the end of highschool, my class organized the graduation celebration to be in a club- and God taught me a memorable lesson there about how easily we can slip into dangerous ground, even if we are among the ones to be rather typically well-on-guard – thankfully He had His hand of protection over me all the time). And before anyone believes that I may have made all these decisions out of a religious spirit, I wanna tell you right away, that’s not the case… I haven’t read the Bible until Christ saved me 4 years ago. I’ve believed in God my whole life but I had no idea who Jesus really was until God led me to His whole Truth and opened my eyes. The God-honoring life I chose to live before I came to the full knowledge of Christ, I did it because my heart has always been set on pleasing God and I’ve always had a strong conscience in me… this still, small voice that corrected me and led me and forewarned me of potential danger, and thankfully most of the time I gave heed to its calls. I mostly traveled the narrow path, by the gracious guidance and help of God alone – it was not crowded, and wherever I went people noticed me to be different and they loved it. I’m grateful that God did this – that He kept me on the narrow path or quickly corrected me through the inner voice back onto it, that He set me apart by doing so, that He touched others through me, not because of who I am, but because of His greatness at work, because of who He is. And this you gotta know… God is doing all of this in each and every one of His children; all we gotta make sure to do is to cooperate with Him and choose wisely.

    • CMLove says:

      Amen, PfC!! Thank you so much for your words of wisdom (and thank you to LovingHusband also!) It is so true, God is the absolute Authority and we all are held accountable to Him! I am so encouraged each time i read your words! Thank you for your presence here on Marriage Heat, sister!

    • PassionateForChrist says:

      Dearest CMLove, thank you so much, my friend! You are such a blessing to me personally and to MH too. I’ve followed all of your comments, wherever you post, and, girl, I so love all that you share!! I cherish the CMLove perspective you bring to everything – and I am quite fond of it. 😀 The more I read from you, the more I love it. The ways of your heart are amazing. I am very much grateful for whatever kind of blessing God enables me to be to you and I thank Him for making you be the special blessing you are to MH and to me. Much love! God bless! 🙂

    • CMLove says:

      Thank you so much for the love and encouragement, PassionateForChrist! You words really touched my heart! I cannot wait to meet you (and our other brothers and sisters on this site) face to face! If not on this earth, I am assured we will all spend eternity together with our Savior! Such a wonderful blessing to look forward to!!

    • Lovinghusband says:

      Dear Happy Husband,

      Thank you for your comments. I would like to interact a bit with them.

      Before I do, I want to make it known that I think interaction can be beneficial. Isaiah 1 calls us to come and reason together. That said, I want to make it clear that I have no interest in trying to win a debate on MH. I would rather win a heart with God’s truth more than winning an argument by guile. I know you feel the same.

      As I read your comments, my first thought was “how does HH’s comments fit with what the Bible teaches about our sin nature and the call to live wisely?” I saw some interesting questions – but they kind of presupposed a view of the world where the people at the pool are basically good morally. I think that is problematic to the real world that the Bible lays out for us.

      I think the overarching teaching from Scripture about our sin nature in many ways answers your questions. Again, we all need to strive for what the biblical balance is – and not only focus on one aspect. For example, if one only focuses on God being gracious – that tends to lead to licentiousness. On the other hand, if the only focus is on the sinfulness of man apart from God giving grace – one might tend to be legalistic and unnecessarily restrictive about many things.

      I too appreciate every inch of my wife’s body – but not every part of a woman sparks a man like naked tits, pussy, and butt. That is not only a North American issue either. Any pagan culture that has chosen to either over expose their bodies or under expose – it not operating by a biblical worldview. So, if men became less sensitive to 1 Flesh’s wife’s breasts as the day rolled on at the Tao pool – that is no positive argument for doing it. In other words, it wouldn’t have been only unwise if the men stayed continually focused her tits and erect while she was present. That doesn’t mean they were less sexual.

      In a crass example, a police car can be parked in your neighborhood without drawing a lot of attention. Then, the red lights come on on top and there is something that captures your eye. The same is true with a beautiful woman dressed. She can be there without drawing the kind of ogling that comes when her nipples are on display. Her “lights” are on. My experience at a nude beach in my early 20’s was that I left there very aware of the tits around me. I did not have sexual release on that beach and it kept me alert for hours. Conversely, I have been at other beaches since coming to faith in Christ. Do I notice women? Yes. Is it the same as having them naked? Not even close! I certainly do avoid beaches that I would not feel comfortable taking my family to. I am a Californian and have lived by the beach a number of times – and God has given us wisdom about where not to go. BTW, my wife has always appreciated that I was careful in this regard. Has it kept us from being able to enjoy God’s creation? Not at all. We’ve always been able to find good options (but not perfect).

      You proposed only two options – that the Tao pool was either a place 1) “charged with sexual energy”; or 2) “Merely a casual place where women could be topless without condemnation.” I want to specifically address this. I think this is perhaps the most problematic and potentially deceptive part of your response. Deceptive because it doesn’t see this pool in a context of the Bible. We are called to take our thoughts captive to the obedience of Christ. This includes living our lives at places like the Tao pool. If we believe that there were 90 sinners there – and 50 sets of boobs – then there was sexual energy. Not only that, it means that it could not merely be a casual place where there is no condemnation. That place doesn’t exist on earth on this side of heaven. If women are called to modesty – except with their husbands – then there was plenty of condemnation. Thus, proposing this as an option could be a tempting option – but not based on truth. A woman can be topless with her husband without condemnation. Again, think of the wife who senses that her tits are turning other’s on. What does that do to her? Is that good? No. It is not justification to say I turned other men on husband – so that tonight when we went at it – it was as erotic as ever. We are not to treat other people like they are just rooks and pawns in our sexual chess game. I could go on and on about the dynamic of what would take place in the hearts and minds of people exposing themselves to one another for hours. God’s wisdom with boundaries is so awesomely glorious! He knows what He is doing. Let’s rejoice in it.

      So, God does call us to a kind of modesty that has us reasonably covered. This doesn’t mean that the shape of a woman is something they have to be ashamed of or cover with a barrel. It does call for both men and women to be responsible. To love our neighbor as our self. If my wife exposed her tits at a public pool to strangers – she would not be loving her neighbor. If I gave my approval and rooted her on in doing it – I would not be loving my neighbor. All the neighbors at the pool may smile and enjoy all day – but I know better as a Christian. If that day ended with supercharged sex with my wife – that would not justify the poor choices during the day. My sexual delight with my wife is not the end all for my life. If there is collateral damage from our selfishly wanting to include other people in our fantasies in a public pool – that is being a stumbling block.

      I am a Christian. I love sex with my wife to an amazing degree!!! I think about sex a lot. I think it is a great blessing from God. I believe we have tremendous freedoms in the Lord. The marriage bed is not defiled. All that said, there are wonderful boundaries that God has given us. We shouldn’t be disappointed in those boundaries and try to move them – we should rejoice in the protection that God brings us through those boundaries. In reality, there are NOT a ton of boundaries. But the one’s that are there are misused to our peril.

      Don’t miss this: The boundaries that God has given us in Scripture have NOTHING to do with any comparisons with wives in Islam.Nothing in Scripture is “forcing” Christians to stay away from the fullness of sex and sexuality in their marriages. The Islam reference does not fit. The option isn’t: Go to Tao pool and the casual, no condemnation titty bar – or – you are forcing your wife to be like a Muslim. I know that wasn’t your intention HH. I am just stating this for emphasis. Our Christian liberties are great and they are what we need. They lead to plenty love and erotic orgasms. Christian modesty does not equal Islam.

      Let me know what you think of this HH. I want to call people on MH to the sexy and safe place that God has for us. I am convinced it is not found at places like Tao pool. God bless you brother! LH

    • CMLove says:

      Well said, LH. So thankful that you are sharing the wisdom and candor that God has given you with the people here at MH! I pray the Savior continues to bless you and your wife!

    • Happy Husband says:

      I think many have misinterpreted my post. Much has been said already so I won’t take too long. I intended to point out that sexual arousal and modesty are greatly influenced by social standards. In the U.S. a woman bearing her breasts is strongly sexual. In other cultures, maybe less or maybe more so. I know that I would love to be totally nude with my wife at the beach, and we have enjoyed that when we found a remote location with no one around. (on a different note…what couples don’t have a “making love on the beach fantasy?”). If a beach were sparsely populated with other nude couples, we might not feel much differently, but sparsely populated would be the operating term. But a crowded or busy beach…not going to happen. The same is true for baring her breasts. In the U.S., a scenario of topless women is highly likely to be sexually charged and/or centered, and neither my wife nor I would be comfortable. With all of that said, all of us, especially those in this sexually centered site, need to realize that we have to be careful about judgment. I would note that the men and women pictured in the story tiles on this site are often scantily clad, showing legs, bare chests, and cleavage, clearly providing anonymous images of flesh outside of our marriages. When I see such a picture, I think of my wife, but someone else might be tempted to think of the models. I think that on this site, all of us have come to focus our sexual attention and desires on our spouses, but I think 1 Flesh’s story highlights how precarious that can often be, even with the best of intentions.

  8. HornyHubby says:

    Several years ago a friend of mine started telling me about nudism. He was convinced there was a Christian way to practice nudism. I started researching it for myself and while I did find many groups that called themselves Christian nudists, I also found a lot of problems and questionable things about it. I ended up writing a report on all my findings. I have thought several times about sharing it on here and I may just do that. But the main thing I took away from it was that there were more negative things about it than positive so I concluded it was a practice best left alone.

    • CMLove says:

      Thanks for the comment, HornyHubby! I’ve often wondered about Christian Nudity. I would enjoy reading a post about your findings!

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